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SIKTH
Interview by Kate at Wolverhampton on 23rd July, 2004
Our guest interviewer Kate started writing for the site when she interviewed Taking Back Sunday a couple of months ago, and now she's back with an interview with Sikth. Read on to find out about their next album, their favourite songs and...erm...obsessed fans (I'm not mentioning the T-shirt!)
Weller: Come on then spit it out.
Pin: Swallow if you like.
Pin, that’s disgusting
(Weller and Kate laugh)
So wrong. Right, firstly, how are you all today?
Weller: Fantastic.
James: Do we have an accent?
What?
James: Do we have an accent?
Pin: Like you’ve always got a brummie accent, but we…does ours sound like a weird accent?
Weller: We’re southern aren’t we?
I don’t know, I don’t really hear an accent in you, 'cause I never
pay
attention to what you say, when you talk. No not like that! (Weller
laughs)
That came out bad.
Pin: Anyway, yeah man…
Weller: We’re just objects to you.
James: We’re fine today.
Weller:Yeah, everything’s fine, my dinner’s really nice.
Good, good. How did the tour of Japan go?
Weller: Really, really well.
Pin: Yeah, crazy.
Weller: Better than we could’ve expected. We didn’t realise we had a lot
of
fans; well, as many as we found over there. So it was, er, really
exciting
and really kind of a strange experience. It’s very different to
Britain.
What’s your weirdest fan experience?
(Everyone in the room laughs)
That’s a stupid question considering I’m wearing this shirt…
Pin: No I think we should use that.
Weller: It might be a bit of a biased interview if the interviewer is
wearing
that.
(For all of you that don’t know, I was wearing a t-shirt with “I love
Mr Dan
Weller And Graham Too (You Know Who You Are)” on it.) I thought I’d be the answer somewhere along that line.
Weller: Well, I’ve got two weird experiences. One of which is when, er,
a guy
took a toilet seat…
I read about that.
Weller Oh, and he asked me to sign a toilet seat that I’d just had a
shit on
about 5 minutes earlier. In Leicester. I hadn’t shat on the seat…
See, I’d never do a thing like that, it’s pretty wrong.
Weller: But probably my weirdest is you wearing a t-shirt saying I love
Mr
Dan Weller on it.
James: Yeah, that’s probably the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen.
I’m never gonna live this shirt down am I really?
Pin: No.
Weller: Well I normally only attract men you see.
Oh…(laughs)
Weller: You do know I’m gay. You know I’m gay.
Don’t say that!
Weller: I am.
Pin: Dan’s actually rubbing my crotch right now. With his third arm!
(Weller laughs)
James: Dan wouldn’t do that, not with a member of the band, but he is
gay.
(Weller, James and Pin start insulting each other although it’s hard to
make
out what they are actually saying!)
Pin: Oh, Christ!
Weller: Right go on.
This could get messy!
(As Pin makes strange noises)
Weller: It will only get messy if he creams under the table.
James: Yeah, it’ll be like gallons of white piss.
Pin: You better put your goggles on!
(Weller laughs)
Weller: Right go on.
(To Pin) Uh, what are you doing? You’re actually hitting around!
Pin: Yeah, oohh!
Weller: In brackets “at which point Pinney starts to rub himself!”
(Weller and Kate laugh)
Pin: Yeah, after Dan fingered my ring.
Weller: Yeah!! You’re getting a really candid interview here!
(At which point I’ve lost it and can’t stop laughing)
Weller: No, this interview’s gonna be like no other thing, you see, so you got
a
good one.
Erm, what influenced you to be in a band?
James: Other bands!
Weller: Yeah! I think, the desire to try and be better than everyone
else. I
mean because we’ve all grown up being obsessed with music. Erm, when
you get
the bug for writing music, and it collectively comes together, you kind
of
create something beyond what you imagined.
Who are some of your favourite bands?
Weller: James?
James: Broccoli. That’s not my favourite band, that’s what I’m choking
on!
(Everyone laughs)
Weller: I’ll answer, you can catch up. Some of my favourite bands are
Extreme,
Alice In Chains, Metallica – classic Metallica –
James: Whitesnake.
Weller: Whitesnake, Meshuggah –
Pin: Symphony X.
Weller: Symphony X.
Pin: Racer X.
Weller: Racer X.
Pin: (With a mouthful of chicken) Rhapsody.
Weller: Rhapsody! Yeah, that’s wicked. You think we’re taking the piss,
we’re
not.
I’m just thinking this could go on for a while. I'll have the
whole
tape filled with bands.
Pin: The Yeah, Yeah, Na’s.
Weller: The Yeah, Yeah, Na’s! And obviously, Metaliban.
(After an uncomfortable silence.) Have you finished?
Weller: Yeah
Ah, good. If you weren’t in Sikth what do you think you’d be doing
now?
Weller: Probably trying to form Sikth.
James: Or be in a band called Whore Moan.
Pin: I’d be in a band called Slab.
James: I’d be in a band called Whore Moan. As in, you are a Whore and
Moan.
Weller: James is referring to a list he found in my front room, from
years
ago, of potential band names before we came up with Sikth. And some of
them
were terrible.
Pin: No all of them were terrible!
Weller: Yeah!
Nice! Even though you haven’t finished it yet, how do you
think
the new album will compare to ‘The Trees Are Dead And Dried Out…?’
James: (In a deep voice) It’s got to be heavier!
Weller: It’s gonna be a lot heavier and er, a lot more precise.
It’ll
have plenty of journeys but as a package it’ll sound like it was
written in
the same period, you know? Cause, our first album was written over a
few
years, but this album was written in a shorter period, it’s more
focused.
But er, it’s hard to compare really because all of our songs sound
different
to the last one so, just loads of different progressions really.
What are the highlights of being in a band?
Pin: I love Mr Dan Weller T-shirts!
Look, it’s the T-shirt again. Here we go. This shirt, I’m never
gonna
live it down now.
Weller: Highlights of being in a band?
Tech Guy: Hey, can we interview you about that T-shirt?
(Everyone laughs)
Weller: There are loads of highlights, but they’d all be clichés
probably
about being able to erm, (Pin burps) get in a van or a coach and get
out the
other end and meet loads of people that love your band, it’s great. And
the
buzz, the buzz of finishing a song, recording it, hearing it and
hearing
what you’ve created, it’s just…
Pin: And hanging around with ten sweaty blokes everyday. It’s amazing!
Weller: Yeah, seeing a load of blokes picking up heavy boxes.
Are there any lyrical concepts on the new album?
James: Do I look like a vocalist?
Pin: Yeah, do I look like a vocalist?
Weller: There are but we don’t know a lot of them yet. 'Cause the songs
are up
there, musically they’re almost finished, but vocally, it’s just
starting to
happen. Erm, but I’m sure Mikee will answer that question when he’s
finished
his dinner.
Mikee: What?
Weller: Lyrical concepts. For the next album.
Mikee: There are lots of different things, inspired by other different
things.
(Weller, Pin, James and Kate laugh)
Good answer.
Foord: How long’s your tape by the way?
30 minutes each side, like, an hour.
Mikee: They’re a lot more focused because I’m writing like the songs
before I
write the rhythms and shit like that….
(It’s impossible to hear what Mikee says at this point as Pin is
constantly
scraping his fork along his plate and everyone is talking.)
Weller: Are you picking that up, love?
Well, you can turn the volume up anyway, so…
Mikee: It’s a lot more focused as Dan said as a whole thing.
(Pin makes a banging sound as he hits his cup full of ice cubes against
the
table!)
Noisy sod!
(Pin bangs his cup again – three times and I laugh at him!)
Weller: Jesus, I’m getting heartburn. (To Pin) What are you doing?
Pin: I don’t know but I’m moving away from you.
He’s weird, ignore him.
Weller: I’ve got heartburn. Jesus. That’s real bad actually.
James: Yes, let it go down.
Weller: Carry on.
How were you first noticed as a band?
Weller: By the press, or by… where did we get our first break? Well, we
played a show with a band called…
Cook Lady: Would you like some apple pie and custard?
Weller: Yeah, bring it on.
Pin: That’d be amazing.
James: What was that?
Pin: Apple pie and custard.
(James drops his fork on his plate and looks silently satisfied!)
Weller: We supported a band called Miocene who our current manager used
to
manage. He put us on with them; they got a review in Rock Sound, we
were
mentioned in the review, that was our first bit of press. Rock Sound
really
liked it…
Mikee: Actually Dan, we didn’t have a manager when we played.
Weller: No, no, no I didn’t say that. We weren’t managed at that point.
But
that’s when our manager kind of got involved with us.
Pin: That’s when it all went wrong.
Weller: I say manager…
Pin: Yes, dog’s body.
James: Keith’s our manager, he’s totally amazing, and he’s the best
manager
ever.
(Pin burps – AGAIN!)
What advice would you give to anyone who’s thinking of starting a
band
or who’s just got into a band? Like me.
Pin: Don’t play any gigs until you’re really good.
Weller: Yeah and don’t, whatever you do, feel the need to slip into a
genre
or a fad, because the way you get noticed and you stay popular is to
innovate and to be different. Cause fads died out as soon as they came
in.
that’s if you’re listening to me!
I am, sorry.
Weller: That’s alright.
Pin’s distracting me. Fuck off Pin!
Pin: But I wasn’t even looking at you. You just can’t help looking at me
that’s your problem.
Don’t flatter yourself…. Do you have an overall theme for song
writing?
I’m asking the wrong people, but still….
Weller: What for the lyrics?
Pin: I think our overall theme is to try and not replace anything that
we’ve
done before. So there’s never a general theme…
Weller: Yeah, we set very high standards on ourselves in that we don’t…
a lot
of bands would write an album, and then go back to their first album
and go
“we could do something in that style again” but, we don’t, we’re
hearing it
as a completely fresh canvas. A lot of bands hear other bands and go
“yeah,
we gotta do a riff like that and make it our own” we don’t do that, we
totally try and start from scratch.
Do you have any particular favourite songs?
Weller: What, Sikth songs?
Yeah.
Weller: I’m very proud of ‘Scent Of The Obscene’.
Pin: (Looking up to the sky) ‘Skies Of Millennium Night’.
Weller: ‘Skies…’ is kind of an all round fave to play live. ‘Wait For
Something Wild’.
James: ‘Pussyfoot’.
Weller: Yeah, I think collectively, the newer stuff on the album is
probably
more our favourite.
James: We’ve got some working titles as well.
Weller: Huh?
James: We’ve got some working titles.
Weller: Obviously (censored).
(Anything you see that is censored is a working title for Sikth’s new
album,
but we’re not giving them away just yet! You will have to wait…)
Pin: Yeah!!
Weller: Basically we’ve got a load of new songs without names.
(Censored) that’s a newy.
Pin: (Censored)
Weller: These are all songs that have working titles so they’re our
favourites. No one but us knows what they sound like. You think we’re
taking
the piss, we’re not.
No, I’m just wondering if you’ve finished so I don’t interrupt
you.
Weller: You’re an impatient interviewer. You’ve gotta let them finish.
Pin: You know our best stuff comes out when we’ve been talking.
Weller: See we’re getting the flow now and I was just about to say
something
really like, special…
Pin: And you killed the vibe.
No, I just don’t want to interrupt you. Like, I don’t want to –
(As Pin interrupts me!)
Pin: But you just did interrupt us by looking really bored.
(I attempt to hit Pin with my rolled up piece of paper.)
Pin: The abuse!
Weller: She’s a dominator this one is.
Kate: I haven’t hit you yet!
Weller: Onto the next one.
Do any of your songs have significant meanings?
Welle: Well they all do yeah, or they wouldn’t have any meaning at all
I
suppose. Hey Mikee.
Mikee: Yes Dan?
Weller: What does ‘Hold My Finger’ mean?
Mikee: It’s like a circle of energy…
(Everyone starts laughing)
James: Don’t make me laugh.
Mikee: No, this is what it means…
Pin: What a circle of energy, like a bum?
(Everyone laughs again)
Weller: But yeah, they’ve all got significant meanings. They’ve all got
significant meanings. Carry on.
(I laugh hysterically)
You have to tell me when to carry on! What are your plans for the
rest
of 2004?
Pin: We’re gonna record the second album, that you were referring to
earlier.
Weller: In America with Colin Richardson. Erm, we’re going back to Japan
soon, well next week we’re going back to Japan and then we’re going
back to
Japan in December. And hopefully doing a load of shows in America.
Pin: And Dan’s being stalked by you.
Dan’s been stalked by me for a while now, it’s nothing really new.
Weller: Well, I didn’t know that. That’s news to me.
Pin: Yeah, we’ve got it on tape now.
Weller: Well I know… no I wouldn’t call you a stalker, I see the irony
in
that.
If I had your name tattooed that would be a stalker.
Weller: But you’re getting Sikth written on your leg.
I’m getting a Sikth tattoo not a Dan Weller tattoo.
Weller: No, no don’t get a Dan Weller tattoo.
No god no. I love you but that’s a bit extreme.
Weller: That would possibly kill your trend forever. If you do get a
Sikth
tattoo, take a picture and email it to me. That would be amazing.
That’s pretty much it. I ran out of intelligent things to say at,
like,
3 in the morning.
(Everyone in the room starts clapping me)
I ran out of intelligent
things
to say years ago.
Weller: So did we. No that was really good. You got some answers that
we’ve
never given.
Mikee: I would tell you the meaning to ‘Hold My Finger’ but it might
hurt
you, it might harm you, because you’re only a tender age.
Pin: Yeah, you’re young.
I’ve been round Pin for quite a while, I’m pretty safe in that
area.
(James looks at me as though I’ve said something disgusting) AROUND PIN!!
(Weller and Pin are telling Mikee to shut up)
Mikee: No, no. I’ve explained it to these people here and they
understand. It
isn’t hard. You just have to think a little further, open the doors,
and
widen your horizons.
Weller: Mikee, I remember what you used to say when people asked you
that.
Mikee: Yeah, I told them it was about my floppy dick!
Weller: (Laughs) Yeah!!
Oh thank god for that! I thought it wasn’t recording then!
Weller: That was a good interview, well done!
Pin: Yeah, nice one.
Weller: Sorry for taking the piss.
Pin: We’re horrible aren’t we?
(To Pin) You are! You’re really evil to me.
Weller: No one in the world knows the working titles to our new album.
You’re
the first person outside of the band to know, so that’s quite a
revealing
interview.
See according to Pin, I’m an old-git-ophile (to Pin) when you’re
older
than Dan so you can shut up!
Weller: Yeah!
Pin: But you’re not after me.
I’m not ‘after’ Dan, I just love him. I don’t want to go out with
him.
Pin: Oh, you liar!!
Weller: But I’m gay! Lads, tell her I’m gay, aren’t I?
Mikee: Yeah.
Weller: It’s no joke.
Justin: It’s those shorts mate. The ones you love wearing.
Weller: Well, I turned on that day, I like those shorts.
James: You should make a special point in the interview about how Dan’s
gay
and maybe, like, bring up the special flow.
Weller: Let me give you a quote, yeah, ‘there’s something about a bad
arsehole that’s just way better than a fanny.’
(As I start to rummage through my bag, my wallet with “Sikth rock
and so
does Mr Dan Weller, I love him” written on it falls out and I try to
hide
it!)
Pin: What’s going on down there, what’s going on down there?
Absolutely nothing.
Sarah: She’s written something on her wallet.
Weller: Oi, show him that studly picture of me, you’ve got in your
wallet.
Pin: I’ve already seen it earlier.
The one where he looks really scared? Apparently, you’re giving a
blowjob!
Weller: Am I?
Pin: To an invisible cock!
Weller: What does that say?
Nothing.
Weller: What does it say?
Nothing.
Weller (With a hint of pleading in his voice) Oh, come on, you’ve shown
us
the T-shirt and the pictures.
And now I’m not showing you my wallet!!
James: That’s what ‘Wait For Something Wild’s’ about, it’s called ‘Wait
For
Something Wide’ – it’s about Dan.
Weller: Are you referring to my weight or my willy?
Justin: Your willy.
James: Your weight.
Weller: (As he reaches over the table) Come on show me…
You’ve seen my shirt now, that’s pretty much…. It can’t be half as
bad
as the shirt I’m wearing now.
Weller: (Laughs slightly hysterically and shows it to the rest of the
band,
the merch guy and the manager!) Why do you flatter me so much?
I don’t know.
(James and Pin laugh)
Weller: Don’t pass it to Mikee, you’ll have no credit cards left.
I don’t have – No, I have £30 in there!!
Mikee: Yeah, like I’m gonna nick all your money.
Weller: Can I get a picture of this later?
Yeah sure.
(At this point, the band has lost it and are playing with a bunch of
mini
magnets that I gave to Weller, minutes earlier!)
Thanks a lot to the band for taking the time to answer Kate's questions, and their manager Keith for sorting everything out, and thanks to Kate for doing the interview! You can find out more about the band at their site, www.sikth.com.
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