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PUNK AND POLITICS - DEAD GLAMOUR GIRL
Interview by Jess
Formed in January 2005, Dead Glamour Girl are influenced by the likes of AFI, Guns N Roses and The Misfits.
First of all, what has the band been up to recently?
MARK - We've been writing new material, rehearsing our live show,
booking a
UK tour and getting hassle from some very sad, lonely and bitter
people.
DAN - There's been a lot of chopping and changing. The last few weeks
have
been fantastic and its made us re-think a lot of our future plans.
TOBE - We've had to put up with a lot of adversity recently, something
usually reserved for bands with a much higher status than our own.
We'll
defeat it though. On a happier note we're just mainly living it up and
working hard on new music. The new stuff sounds phenomenal!
JOHNNY - Mainly we have been looking at our options on world
Domination, We
know we are good enough, we know we are a lot better then a lot of the
UK
bands out there, and no matter how much they stand in our way and what
they
put in front of us, it will make us closer and stronger as a band,
Which
will always be a good thing.
How would you describe your music?
MARK - I think it's pretty hard to label our music, it seems to appeal
to
fans of punk, hardcore, metal goth, emo, screamo blah blah blah. I'd
like to
think of it as just plain old rock n roll.
DAN - I agree. Each member of the band has different influences,
however
there bands or films or books that influence us all. I think that’s how
all
our songs can be so diverse but still not sound out of place together.
TOBE - I also agree, we seem to appeal to all sorts of scenes. Our main
fan base is the gothic punk scene, but due to all the band member's
influences we have a very varied sound incorporating metal, hardcore,
punk
and even industrial. There are so many genres these days, Kerrang seem
to
invent a new one each week. I heard Mastodon are now known as 'Whale
Core'.
JOHNNY - I always try my best, not to label bands or be labelled. To me
we
write music that unites people in one Feeling, 'Emotion' we have songs
to
get drunk to and dance, we have songs to fuck to, songs to fight to,
songs
to cry to. I think people respect that about us. But like Mark says i
see us
musically as a Rock n roll band.
The media influencing young people is a big issue at the moment. How
much of
an influence do you think music has on today's youth? What kind of
influence
does it have?
MARK - I think music has always played a big part in influencing kids.
It
did for me and still does. It's a form of expression and any form of
expression will provoke an emotion in somebody, whether it's hate,
love,
disgust, shock, sadness.... Ultimately, whatever influence music has,
it
boils down to the person reacting. Does a particular song make me go
out and
do something or was the will to do what I've done always there and the
music
simply provoked the emotion that was missing? I think it's more of the
latter.
TOBE - Its a difficult one to call. I think music's influence on people
is
obvious since so many fashions are to do with music. If you look in
Topshop
you'll see the sort of clothes bands like The Killers will wear since
that's
what's cool at the moment. However, then you have the extreme end of
the
argument, with bands like Marilyn Manson and Slayer being blamed for
murder,
that's just ridiculous. I mean sure, both bands have disturbing content
and
obsessive devotees, but they don't instruct people to kill. The media
has a
habit of blowing things out of proportion.
JOHNNY - I think music is one of the major influences on Kids around
today,
It influences people how to act, dress how to wear there hair. The
Media can
manipulate that and they can stifle individuality. People are always
gonna
be looking for a role model, and unfortunately the media are going to
exploit that.
Do you ever try and get messages across to your fans in your music, or
try
to persuade them to think a certain way?
MARK - Not at all, I write songs and lyrics that relate to me and me
alone,
most of the time my lyrics are like a diary for me, except it's a very
public and open diary. If people can relate to them then awesome, but I
don't expect it. All emotions are relative to the individual, so one
persons
pain is another persons happiness. I guess I write songs to provoke an
emotion from me, maybe a song that makes me want to scream that little
bit
harder or jump that little bit higher. It's all just therapy for me,
very
selfish really.
TOBE - I agree with Mark, we've never used our lyrics to influence
fans. The
finest lyrics we've written stem from emotional times in our lives and
everything we write really fills us with enthusiasm. If we were writing
to
influence rather than feel I don't believe we'd be as passionate.
Have you ever experienced conflict as a result of dressing a certain
way/listening to a certain music/being a part of a certain group? If
so,
what form did this conflict take?
MARK - I get it everyday, I have done all my life. It's unfortunate but
nothing is ever going to stop that. Conflict ranges from mind numbingly
boring verbal abuse to elitism within "scenes". To be honest I've never
been
one to care what other people think. If someone thinks I can't listen
to
Alkaline Trio if I like Mastodon or thinks I can't wear nail varnish if
I'm
a guy then so be it, if it helps them feel secure in their own
existence
then who am I to try and stop that.
DAN - People don't like using this word, but what it comes down to is
prejudice. Unfortunately it does exist in all walks of life, and
punk/hardcore is no different. What’s the difference in someone
laughing at
someone who is wearing bling and no shirt than someone wearing
eyeliner? It
exists and that is sad but I think in a way we are all guilty. This
said I
would never insult anybody for there music taste or their life choices.
TOBE - You just have to grin and bear it. There's no way you can fit in
to
all scenes so why bother. I just dress how I like, and if someone has
an
opinion on it then that's their business, I'm quite happy. Real men
wear
pink!
JOHNNY - The punk and hardcore scene is full of elitism, and that’s what
is
killing the unity of it, when I grew up and especially in school,
listening
to music that wasn’t exactly norm was like a brotherhood, you wouldn’t
know
their name but because they wore a pantera shirt, you felt like you
wanted
to talk to them because it broke the monotony of what you were
listening to
in say clubs and the charts. But now that’s all changed you look
everywhere
and you will see a rock band t shirt on a majority of people, the media
has
marketed the music and sold out all the integrity the music ever had.
And
that is where the 'Elitism' comes from, the old school cant bear that
there
music has been sold to the masses, i must admit i am a snob when it
comes to
music, but in no ways am i elitist. You face prejudice everyday, when
you
walk down the street, because you are white, because you are black,
because
you wear your hair in a particular way. No matter what you follow, what
you
say you are going to face Prejudice its a way of life.
Have you ever been to a show/gig (either one of your own or someone
else’s)
where violence has broken out? Why do you think this violence starts?
MARK - Yeah, happens all the time. It all comes down to what emotions
are
being provoked. Can you blame music, not really, if someone's gonna be
violent then they're gonna be violent. What I find ironic is how
violent
Straight Edge shows get. That whole movement came from a guy (Ian
MacKaye
from Minor Threat) that was tired of seeing people get drunk and
violent at
DC shows, so the song "Straight Edge" was about NOT getting drunk
and violent and enjoying the show. All of sudden the Straight Edge
movement
is born, and people decide drink and drugs are bad, amongst other
things
that have been thrown into that pot recently. So you'd expect to go to
a
Straight Edge show, enjoy the band and live to tell the tale. WRONG, SE
shows are the most violent shows I've ever been to. And I know certain
"Edgers" that show no prejudice, I've seen 25 year old guys grab 15
year old
girls and kick them square in the face. What they gonna do? Blame the
music,
cos they sure as hell can't blame the beer. Maybe it's because they're
just
violent people. Personally if I saw that kind of behaviour at one of
our
shows then I'd have a problem with that.
TOBE - There's no way we would stand for that. There's nothing I hate
more
at shows than when someone has their night ruined by someone showing
off.
Countless times I've seen people bleeding, collapsing, being knocked
over
etc. There isn't a lot you can do about it, but it happens, and its sad
to
see kids get hurt.
JOHNNY - You don’t have to go far to see some twat get pissed up and
start
getting messy, what annoys me when people start pits on the side o
pits,
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT! you either get in the pit and do all your
MACHO
bullshit and beat your fucking skulls together, or you just enjoy the
show
like everyone else. I hate people who think they are the only ones who
can
possibly enjoy the show because they were cracking there skulls
together.
FUCKING DOLTS!
People are represented / stereotyped in a certain way for the way they
dress. Does this 'labelling' also happen to people for the kind of
music
they listen to? What are your opinions on this?
MARK - Yeah it does happen a lot but then it all ties in with image
too. At
the end of the day people need to use labels to make themselves feel
secure.
People get anxious and nervous if they can't instantly label something
or
someone. If i go up to a guy in a Manowar t-shirt and start talking
about
The Cure he's pretty much gonna think I'm a fag, regardless of what
shirt
I'm wearing. If that helps him sleep at night then I'll be the fag for
him.
DAN - Labelling and stereotype is such a dark area. You can't make a
comment about either without being hypocritical. For one idiot in each
scene that says something stupid they'll be ten who are great people.
Its
just you only remember the dick.
TOBE - There's always going to be small minded types. I know people who
are
reluctant to listen to Trivium because Matt Heafy has such a clean
melodic
voice, they just say 'I liked the verse, but that chorus is gay emo'.
Stereotyping will always be there, I just try to listen to what I like
and
ignore the abuse.
JOHNNY - oh definitely, it stems from ignorance, i mean just cause i
listen
to heavy music doesn’t mean im a devil worshipper, or like Mark says
because
i listen to the cure people are gonna think im Gay. FUCK IT, its time
people
stopped thinking what the person next them is thinking and just get on
with
their own life.
What kind of music are you into at the moment? Any favourite bands?
MARK - I have so many play lists on my PC, it's hard to say. I'm loving
the
new Alkaline Trio album (Crimson) and the new Nine Inch Nails (With
Teeth),
I've got advance copies and I've been listening to them a lot. I'm
really
into the Trivium album too and Wake The Dead by Comeback Kid. To be
fair
though when I'm writing stuff for Dead Glamour Girl i tend to listen to
a
lot of older stuff, music that I grew up with, gives me more influence
to be
honest. Stuff like Joy Division, The Cure, Guns N Roses, 80's new wave
music
and Kiss.
DAN - Alkaline Trio, My Chemical Romance, The Used, Comeback Kid and a
band
called Ambry - I got one of there songs off of myspace and its really
good.
TOBE - We all love Comeback Kid here, 'Wake The Dead' is excellent. I'm
also
loving Remembering Never, Trivium, From First To Last and 'Vanity' era
Eighteen Visions. Also heard new Avenged Sevenfold recently, and
although
they're one of my biggest influences I'm feeling a little confused
about it!
JOHNNY - WOW! where do i start? Music always has cycles of what i call
coolness. a band will start or resurrect a sound that people will love
and
then other bands will be born out of that scene, as this tech hardcore
scene
is dying a more dark, sinister age for music is being Born and that
excites
me at the moment, So im listening to bands like 18v, MCR, Atreyu,
loving
Trivium who are taking there sounds and style from Bands i grew up
listening
to, Ive always been big into the New Romantic era of the 80's so i draw
a lot
of my influence and style from that, But my number one love has got to
be
Kiss, there’s always time for kiss in my life.
What has the band got planned next?
MARK - We're booking a UK tour at the moment, so that's the immediate
future
planned out. We're looking at recording and doing a video too but we'll
take
it day by day. We just want as many people to listen to us as possible
and
then either embrace us or go tell us to fuck off and die.
DAN - The more people we can expose to our music the better. Whether
that’s
promotion, playing gigs or whatever, that’s important to me. I'm really
looking forward to getting back out there and playing shows again.
TOBE - We're just promoting our asses off. The response online has been
overwhelming and we're so grateful to everyone who's left us such kind
comments. We're just itching to get touring and to finish more songs. I
also
agree with Dan in that I really hope people will keep up the good work
and
spread the word.
JOHNNY - To get the Dead Glamour Girl Roadshow to as many people as
possible, music isn’t a Privelidge, its a right!
Finally, is there anything else you’d like to add or promote?
MARK - Yeah...... US!! Go listen to our music for free on myspace and
then
leave Tobe an abusive comment about his emo-sweep hair cut!!
DAN - Yeah he gets far too many girlies after him. Go get!
TOBE - www.myspace.com/deadglamourgirl, Johnny and I thank the
beautiful DGG
fans for their kind (and somewhat ego-boosting) comments. Keep 'em
coming
and get those miserable cunts more jealous!
JOHNNY - Yeah people have been awesome so far, not just for individuals
but
for the band as a whole. So yeh check us out, tell your friends, come
to a
show, say hello and buy me a beer. And leave Tobe a comment for his
awesome
EMO sweep.
Thanks to all the bands and promoters who have taken part in our 'Punk and Politics' Feature!
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